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Comments
on Global Awareness - Preemptive Strikes
From: "Baumann,
Robert (NTM)" RBaumann@ntmllc.com
Date: Tue Sep 09, 2003
LLL US/Eastern
To: "'mehmetuca1@cs.com'" mehmetuca1@cs.com
Cc: 'Bircan Unver' bircanunver@earthlink.net
Subject: Your article
We both contribute to Light Millennium due to the overwhelming
influence of Bircan. I rarely get a chance to read the
other content, but given Bircan's recent assignment I
got around today to read your article on preemptive strikes.
The outset of your article describes someone like myself
as a "war loving Bush reactionary conservative".
I think that is perhaps a bit of hyperbole. I am not aware
of anyone "loving" the destruction of human
life. Wars do result in that, of course. Given the nature
and science of modern warfare the amount of casualties
were far more limited than they might have been were this
kind of battle fought with the available technology of
WW2. This is not to say that there was not then, nor is
now, an unfortunate loss of life.
War is always a lamentable thing. Sadly both sides of
a war, were they to realize this, should be open to negotiate,
but they do not. Terrorists see weakness as something
to exploit. Every effort by Israel to give ground results
in their enemies being given time to regroup. It has just
happened again recently. Is cessation of hostility to
be only one sided?
To get back to the point about conservatives, Democrats now who
are running for office want power. If getting power means
exploiting an issue, they'll exploit it. It is very easy
for them to whistle about Bush's leadership.
When give a choice, they stuck their finger in the wind and supported
Bush because they feared looking weak. This is not, of
course, leadership or integrity. Howard Dean excepted,
all the others gave support to a war in Iraq.
How else would you unseat a tyrant like Saddam who tortured his
own people and also gassed a large number of Kurds? Are
the lives of those Kurds of less value than those lost
by the unseating of Saddam? Is Iraq worse off today for
this action?
My own reaction will eventually be placed in the LM as an interview
with Satan. I myself prefer not to be political on the
matter. At heart, the battle is a spiritual one as I see
it, and I have tried to present it as such.
While it is very nice to want to understand the probable causes
for terrorism and address them you cannot do so while
standing on the train tracks of history as the train moves
faster towards you. There is a time and place for "understanding"...
but that will come when threats are eliminated.
If your way is a longer lasting solution, please point to the annals
of history and show me where it has successfully worked
in the past. Written sincerely and with the deepest respect
for your point of view,
Robert J. Baumann
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From: mehmetuca1@cs.com
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003
To: Rbaumann@ntmllc.com
Subject: Re: Your article
Hi Bob,
Thank you for your reaction. I was born not more than 100 Miles
from the border of Iraq to Turkey,
I have suffered through all non-humanitarian actions, and thank
god never have lived under a regime like Saddam's.
I perfectly understand that suffering the Iraqi people went through
during Saddam's reign.
I find it quite noble if the act was to liberate the Iraqi's. But
the truth is far from it.
You want to liberate? Why not the Saudi's, and the Syrians, and
many other African nations those are also devastated with
infectious diseases?
The decision to invade Iraq was made before Sept 11.
We are very unfortunately, and I pray that I am totally wrong,
at the very beginning of long lasting bloodshed of poor
American boys who wanted a college scholarship that they'd
otherwise not be able to attend, and found themselves
in a quagmire, in Iraq.
George W., and Rumsfeld, and Mr. Chenney do not belong to that
poor class, and will never understand what they or their
families go through.
War is start, and with today American Military might, easy to win.
The question is what comes after. Israel is winning everyday.
But cannot stop the bloodshed to its own people.
You must make peace with " reason". And it must be just.
And if you are of that nature war is not necessary.
We must find better ways of dealing with the terrorist. Mine are
few suggestions. But I know, and day after day it is shown,
brutal force is not the choice. It makes things only worse.
Dialogue, tolerance, and just policies are.
Respectfully,
Mehmet Uca
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